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		<title>By: keddaw</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/laughing-at-death/comment-page-1#comment-25055</link>
		<dc:creator>keddaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually alluding (badly) to the empathy issue.  If you are more likely to do what the person in the story did then you are less likely to laugh.  If you think what the person did was silly then you&#039;ll laugh.
e.g. A person following their favourite sports team around the world, avoiding natural disasters and terrorist attacks then getting killed by the team coach outside their home ground is less funny if you follow your team all over the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually alluding (badly) to the empathy issue.  If you are more likely to do what the person in the story did then you are less likely to laugh.  If you think what the person did was silly then you&#8217;ll laugh.<br />
e.g. A person following their favourite sports team around the world, avoiding natural disasters and terrorist attacks then getting killed by the team coach outside their home ground is less funny if you follow your team all over the world.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/laughing-at-death/comment-page-1#comment-24958</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this has &quot;something&quot; to do with fear of being subject to eternal, infinite torture :) Especially for the most awful flavours of such religions where nobody is safe and the believer never knows if they&#039;re saved or not so they&#039;re kept in a state of constant terror.

Although I think members of religions without a hell probably have a fear of death too, so go figure..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this has &#8220;something&#8221; to do with fear of being subject to eternal, infinite torture <img src='http://anadder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Especially for the most awful flavours of such religions where nobody is safe and the believer never knows if they&#8217;re saved or not so they&#8217;re kept in a state of constant terror.</p>
<p>Although I think members of religions without a hell probably have a fear of death too, so go figure..</p>
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		<title>By: Takis Konstantopoulos</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/laughing-at-death/comment-page-1#comment-24885</link>
		<dc:creator>Takis Konstantopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some time ago I stumbled upon a report which claimed that the more religious someone was the more fear of death he/she has and the more likely to seek unorthodox treatment in terminal cases.

This is not to say that non-religious are not afraid of death. But the behaviour of religious ones, especially of those who expect a better life after death, pose a conundrum: why are they afraid so much *more*?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time ago I stumbled upon a report which claimed that the more religious someone was the more fear of death he/she has and the more likely to seek unorthodox treatment in terminal cases.</p>
<p>This is not to say that non-religious are not afraid of death. But the behaviour of religious ones, especially of those who expect a better life after death, pose a conundrum: why are they afraid so much *more*?</p>
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		<title>By: keddaw</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/laughing-at-death/comment-page-1#comment-24804</link>
		<dc:creator>keddaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a thought on the laugh/cry issue about the altar case:

If you feel empathy with the man&#039;s initial reaction (going to church to thank God at being rescued from the lift) you feel bad for him dying, you think &quot;that could have happenned to me.&quot;  

If you think that going immediately to church to thank God that people rescued you from a lift is a bit silly then you are more likely to laugh at what happens to him in Church.

In other words, the more religious you are the less funny you will find the story.  I think that works with other situations too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a thought on the laugh/cry issue about the altar case:</p>
<p>If you feel empathy with the man&#8217;s initial reaction (going to church to thank God at being rescued from the lift) you feel bad for him dying, you think &#8220;that could have happenned to me.&#8221;  </p>
<p>If you think that going immediately to church to thank God that people rescued you from a lift is a bit silly then you are more likely to laugh at what happens to him in Church.</p>
<p>In other words, the more religious you are the less funny you will find the story.  I think that works with other situations too.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/laughing-at-death/comment-page-1#comment-24692</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the 60s, there are still people who believe in the Soviet utopia today, including millions in Russia. And there are quotes from Stalin in the Moscow metro, and a very large Stalinist revival movement...

On the laughing vs empathy I don&#039;t think it&#039;s an either/or. But I&#039;m unable to really laugh at the man in the church too much since that death was a true accident but from a certain perspective the other death was no accident.

Supporting the same regime that kills your family is a specialty of dictatorships: my own great-grandmother was largely a supporter of everything despite her husband dying in the Gulag during one of Stalin&#039;s purges. But for a generation who knew no different, it would have been much easier to mentally draw a difference between the &quot;bad&quot; communists like Stalin and the &quot;good&quot; communists rather than question the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the 60s, there are still people who believe in the Soviet utopia today, including millions in Russia. And there are quotes from Stalin in the Moscow metro, and a very large Stalinist revival movement&#8230;</p>
<p>On the laughing vs empathy I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an either/or. But I&#8217;m unable to really laugh at the man in the church too much since that death was a true accident but from a certain perspective the other death was no accident.</p>
<p>Supporting the same regime that kills your family is a specialty of dictatorships: my own great-grandmother was largely a supporter of everything despite her husband dying in the Gulag during one of Stalin&#8217;s purges. But for a generation who knew no different, it would have been much easier to mentally draw a difference between the &#8220;bad&#8221; communists like Stalin and the &#8220;good&#8221; communists rather than question the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Takis Konstantopoulos</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/laughing-at-death/comment-page-1#comment-24613</link>
		<dc:creator>Takis Konstantopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Moore: I feel the same at first: laugh at the religious story, and be sad about the USSR. Human psychology. That&#039;s why we need reason; to control and question our feelings and instant reactions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Moore: I feel the same at first: laugh at the religious story, and be sad about the USSR. Human psychology. That&#8217;s why we need reason; to control and question our feelings and instant reactions.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Moore</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/laughing-at-death/comment-page-1#comment-24612</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why, but I am able to laugh at the irony present in the story of the Catholic man, but my response to the story of immigration to the USSR is one of sadness and empathy.

Well, I do admit to a predisposition to laughing at such ironic tragedies of religion. But, really, there&#039;s nothing different in either story, other than one being religious, the other political.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why, but I am able to laugh at the irony present in the story of the Catholic man, but my response to the story of immigration to the USSR is one of sadness and empathy.</p>
<p>Well, I do admit to a predisposition to laughing at such ironic tragedies of religion. But, really, there&#8217;s nothing different in either story, other than one being religious, the other political.</p>
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		<title>By: Takis Konstantopoulos</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/laughing-at-death/comment-page-1#comment-24609</link>
		<dc:creator>Takis Konstantopoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this posting a lot.

Well, let me offer an explanation: This man must have been a sinner. And thus he was punished. Right? ;-)

As for jokes, the best Jewish jokes I am aware of I know from Jewish people directly. We have to have the ability to laugh at ourselves as well as make jokes about taboo subjects.

It&#039;s not just in  the early days of the Soviet Union that many from the left in the west supported the USSR. It happened in the 60s too. And sometimes it happened because people believed in a Utopia. A wonderful dream. A society were you are not struggling to compete with your neighbour for more money but where you promote freedom, justice, progress, etc., through your work, your art, your science. If you lived under a western-style dictatorship chances are that you might have been lured by the Soviet Utopia. Yes, many people (and many smart people, not village idiots) wholeheartedly  believed that they could help build a new society. Many intellectuals were lured by communist awards, visits, honours, ... when in their country they could not find recognition. This is human nature. We have to smile at it. But we also have to learn some lessons for the future. And this is why we should look at what happened and never substitute rational though by any propaganda, no matter how sweet it may be.

In December 1989 I found myself at the Berlin wall, on the east side, having been invited by the head of the Probability Division of the Mathematics Department at Humbolt University. Just before I went there, the guy committed suicide (most likely explanation is that his father was a Stalin victim while he himself grew up to believe in Utopia and support it--otherwise he could never have been a head of a department in East Germany--and, all of a sudden, overnight, he saw his dream collapse). 

On my way back to the West, I went through the wall along with thousands of Germans. Chaos. I even managed to miss my plane back to France. And I was depressed of the whole situation, deeply touched by what I saw and the fact that my host had taken his life with his own hands because Utopia went away. 

But, yes, we have to smile...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this posting a lot.</p>
<p>Well, let me offer an explanation: This man must have been a sinner. And thus he was punished. Right? <img src='http://anadder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for jokes, the best Jewish jokes I am aware of I know from Jewish people directly. We have to have the ability to laugh at ourselves as well as make jokes about taboo subjects.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just in  the early days of the Soviet Union that many from the left in the west supported the USSR. It happened in the 60s too. And sometimes it happened because people believed in a Utopia. A wonderful dream. A society were you are not struggling to compete with your neighbour for more money but where you promote freedom, justice, progress, etc., through your work, your art, your science. If you lived under a western-style dictatorship chances are that you might have been lured by the Soviet Utopia. Yes, many people (and many smart people, not village idiots) wholeheartedly  believed that they could help build a new society. Many intellectuals were lured by communist awards, visits, honours, &#8230; when in their country they could not find recognition. This is human nature. We have to smile at it. But we also have to learn some lessons for the future. And this is why we should look at what happened and never substitute rational though by any propaganda, no matter how sweet it may be.</p>
<p>In December 1989 I found myself at the Berlin wall, on the east side, having been invited by the head of the Probability Division of the Mathematics Department at Humbolt University. Just before I went there, the guy committed suicide (most likely explanation is that his father was a Stalin victim while he himself grew up to believe in Utopia and support it&#8211;otherwise he could never have been a head of a department in East Germany&#8211;and, all of a sudden, overnight, he saw his dream collapse). </p>
<p>On my way back to the West, I went through the wall along with thousands of Germans. Chaos. I even managed to miss my plane back to France. And I was depressed of the whole situation, deeply touched by what I saw and the fact that my host had taken his life with his own hands because Utopia went away. </p>
<p>But, yes, we have to smile&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently you have to hard code it by writing (no spaces): &amp; l t ; tagname &amp; g t ;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently you have to hard code it by writing (no spaces): &#038; l t ; tagname &#038; g t ;</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/laughing-at-death/comment-page-1#comment-24599</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote &lt;pedant&gt;&lt;/pedant&gt;? Wordpress must consider it HTML -- maybe it&#039;s a new tag!

I&#039;m not sure WP lets you delete comments you&#039;ve made -- I can edit it.

Also based on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.english-for-students.com/Difference-Between-Emigrate-And-Immigrate.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what I just looked up now&lt;/a&gt;, didn&#039;t these people emigrate &lt;i&gt;from&lt;/i&gt; France and &lt;i&gt;immigrate&lt;/i&gt; to the USSR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote &lt;pedant&gt;&lt;/pedant&gt;? Wordpress must consider it HTML &#8212; maybe it&#8217;s a new tag!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure WP lets you delete comments you&#8217;ve made &#8212; I can edit it.</p>
<p>Also based on <a href="http://www.english-for-students.com/Difference-Between-Emigrate-And-Immigrate.html" rel="nofollow">what I just looked up now</a>, didn&#8217;t these people emigrate <i>from</i> France and <i>immigrate</i> to the USSR?</p>
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