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	<title>Comments on: Genetic Engineering Gets Biblical (Gen 30)</title>
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		<title>By: Daisy</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/genetic-engineering-gets-biblical/comment-page-1#comment-7583</link>
		<dc:creator>Daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 04:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, okay -- fair enough. The story, like much of the Bible, does indeed present some pretty intractable problems for literalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, okay &#8212; fair enough. The story, like much of the Bible, does indeed present some pretty intractable problems for literalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, indeed! But I save my weeping for those that have not had the benefit of knowing better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, indeed! But I save my weeping for those that have not had the benefit of knowing better.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/genetic-engineering-gets-biblical/comment-page-1#comment-7576</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 02:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen -- sometimes it&#039;s more apt to weep for a few modern defenders of such Truths :)

Daisy -- I meant getting out of it if you have a commitment to the Bible as some infallible word of God. Because in that case the fact that it focuses on Jacob outsmarting someone doesn&#039;t change that the method ascribed to Jacob in the story is wrong. As in, even as a metaphor it relies on an incorrect understanding of the world. Which would not be a problem for you but is a problem for those with a more literalist understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen &#8212; sometimes it&#8217;s more apt to weep for a few modern defenders of such Truths <img src='http://anadder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Daisy &#8212; I meant getting out of it if you have a commitment to the Bible as some infallible word of God. Because in that case the fact that it focuses on Jacob outsmarting someone doesn&#8217;t change that the method ascribed to Jacob in the story is wrong. As in, even as a metaphor it relies on an incorrect understanding of the world. Which would not be a problem for you but is a problem for those with a more literalist understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Daisy</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/genetic-engineering-gets-biblical/comment-page-1#comment-7567</link>
		<dc:creator>Daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There are a few ways for to get out of this:&lt;/i&gt;

You leave out a fifth perspective, &quot;this story is a charming folktale,&quot; which doesn&#039;t require one to &quot;get out&quot; of anything at all, nor to draw a symbolic meaning. That said:

&lt;i&gt;The story is symbolic (of what?!)&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t have any special feelings about this story, but I can easily imagine a few ways to read it as a fable or metaphor. Maybe it means that what we think affects how we behave -- focusing on something can alter the fruits of one&#039;s labors, therefore focus on something that will produce the results you want. Maybe it&#039;s just yet another tale about the clever underdog, reminding us that cleverness is more important than brute strength or that the &quot;good guy&quot; wins in the end. Maybe it&#039;s a warning to reconsider our assumptions, because in this case, the brown and speckled sheep were the best of the flock. Etc., etc. I&#039;m not saying any of these interpretations is correct -- just that it&#039;s silly and inaccurate to say that there&#039;s no way the story could be read as symbolic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There are a few ways for to get out of this:</i></p>
<p>You leave out a fifth perspective, &#8220;this story is a charming folktale,&#8221; which doesn&#8217;t require one to &#8220;get out&#8221; of anything at all, nor to draw a symbolic meaning. That said:</p>
<p><i>The story is symbolic (of what?!)</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any special feelings about this story, but I can easily imagine a few ways to read it as a fable or metaphor. Maybe it means that what we think affects how we behave &#8212; focusing on something can alter the fruits of one&#8217;s labors, therefore focus on something that will produce the results you want. Maybe it&#8217;s just yet another tale about the clever underdog, reminding us that cleverness is more important than brute strength or that the &#8220;good guy&#8221; wins in the end. Maybe it&#8217;s a warning to reconsider our assumptions, because in this case, the brown and speckled sheep were the best of the flock. Etc., etc. I&#8217;m not saying any of these interpretations is correct &#8212; just that it&#8217;s silly and inaccurate to say that there&#8217;s no way the story could be read as symbolic.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Moore</title>
		<link>http://anadder.com/genetic-engineering-gets-biblical/comment-page-1#comment-7565</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read the Bible as one would any ancient text of mythology and it is indeed interesting. And I agree that one refrain from laughing at the (what we now see as) ignorance of these ancient peoples. There were genuine attempts to understand nature, and they did the best they could with what was available to them.

Laughing at people in our modern times (when they really ought to know better) who try to defend the Truth and Profound Wisdom (when it goes against all that we understand via the Scientific Method and modern standards of Ethics) such passages provide is fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read the Bible as one would any ancient text of mythology and it is indeed interesting. And I agree that one refrain from laughing at the (what we now see as) ignorance of these ancient peoples. There were genuine attempts to understand nature, and they did the best they could with what was available to them.</p>
<p>Laughing at people in our modern times (when they really ought to know better) who try to defend the Truth and Profound Wisdom (when it goes against all that we understand via the Scientific Method and modern standards of Ethics) such passages provide is fine.</p>
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