Slight change of pace: I’ll try focus each month on a single topic (August is evolution month). I’ll sidetrack of course, but at least this way it appears like I’m going somewhere
Here’s my dog Dusty. Weimaraners are very good-natured, playful, smart, affectionate and energetic. I’d use these 5 adjectives to describe most dogs but especially them. Pretty much all who meet Dusty adore her. Watching her gallop along (with what can only be described as a carefree grin) I might be inclined to think of nature as benevolent. Or that there’s something we can learn from every animal. Or that if we paid more attention to nature we’d be better people.
Matt thinks so from a recent comment:
Can you provide some specific examples? I certainly don’t want to go to the extreme and say we ought to act exactly as all animals act in nature, but for the sake of argument it seems better than the opposite (we must defy all our natural instincts and call this “civilized”). Animals don’t kill their own species. We could learn from that.
The counter-examples are fun enough to warrant this post. So is nature benevolent or not? To start, a similar view from the most appropriate text for evolution, the Babylonian Talmud!
[Even if] the Torah hadn’t been given, we would be able to learn modesty from cats [who cover up excrement], [distancing from] theft from ants [who don't enter others' holes to steal], [distancing from] forbidden sexual relations from doves [who are monogamous] and how to properly engage in relations from roosters [they engage in foreplay] (Eruvin 100b)
For millenia people have had this view of nature. If you discount natural disasters & pests, there’s a general benevolence AND some didactic material…It reminds me of famous Panglossian views like Leibnitz’s that ours is the best of all possible worlds. Logically possible, but neither likely nor interesting. If we actually look at nature we’ll find as much kindness OR brutality as we care to look for. The analysis says more about us. Here’s nature’s “other” side:
- Cannibalism (esp. of one’s own offspring) exists in birds, fish, reptiles, 100 mammal species and a heap more. Not to mention being part of mating for many insects. In a favourite tale of mine, the female praying mantis often bites the head off the male while he’s copulating (which only improves his performance!).
- When there’s population and cultural pressures humans might resort to infanticide. Still, it’s probably many orders of magnitude LESS widespread than in the animal kingdom.
- There’s fratricide in even “placid” birds like swallows. When the 1st chick hatches, it often pushes 1 egg out of the nest.
- Then there’s rape. It’s controversial whether rape is the right word to apply to the animal kingdom & whether doing so trivialises its standard meaning. I think this is a legitimate debate only for animals with very limited cognition. Animals like dolphins and great apes have distinct personalities and preferences, hence I think members of those species are capable of being raped in the sense we understand (just like the concepts of murder might make sense for these animals but not for those with less cognition). Well, dolphins are notorious gang-rapists as are chimpanzees.
All the elements of a great Shakespearean tragedy are present in the animal kingdom in ample amounts. And this is even from the most narrow moral perspective. And I’ve ignored violence done to other species, often simply for the fun of it. When we draw moral lessons from nature, in singling out examples we’re already following our own human inclinations, not some Nature-As-Other.
In fact sometimes nature follows OUR inclinations. Take another look at the Talmud quote. 3 of the 4 examples mentioned are domestic animals, who WE have been designing for over 10,000 years, with whose genome we’ve been tinkering. We’ve bred cows for passivity/stupidity and dogs for loyalty (compare a dog’s personality to that of a wild dog or wolf). Ironically we make nature to suit us and then turn around to draw lessons from it.
Do I adore Dusty any less because I know she’s the end result of millenia of genetic engineering for tail-wagging, obedience and affection? Of course not. If having a history makes something worthless, we’d all be worthless. There’s no unblemished way of looking at nature without using our own human nature. Surely we can appreciate & enjoy nature without needing to (falsely) see it as benevolent?




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Dogs – the best genetic engineering we’ll ever do. Dogs are the best people, after all.
They are. Except these ones!
I’m not sure I buy cannibalism as malevolent. Stranger in a Strange Land by Heinlein makes a good case for it. Also, we would be making cultural assumptions by condemning cultures that do practice it.
I guess the argument shouldn’t be made from a “do what other animals do” standpoint, but it should be more along the lines of “do what is in your own nature.” Chimps don’t gang rape because they look at animals and think, “This is nature, so this is what we’ll do.” It is in their own nature.
When I think of the argument from naturalism, I think that what is natural to us is good. If there is a question as to whether something can occur in nature, then we look to see if it occurs in other places.
We should do what is in our nature, but we also have cognition, and so we should do it in such a way that we don’t harm others.
If you can’t say cannibalism is malevolent than can you use the same philosophy to call anything malevolent? And if so what’s the difference?
In the animal kingdom of course cannibalism means killing a creature by eating it not eating a corpse, and your original comment seemed to condemn it.
Also when you say we should do what’s in our nature, is it even possible to do something against your nature? If by that you mean we should be more like indigenous cultures, it’s nothing to imitate.
Woops. I keep forgetting that this blog doesn’t appear on my comments list, so I just assume no one has responded…
I was assuming cannibalism in the sense that we eat someone after death. You seem to have figured that out, though.
I think people go against their nature all the time. A homosexual will marry the opposite sex due to cultural norms. People withhold all sorts of sexual and anger issues, because it would be inappropriate according to societal norms to express them.
I’m advocating using our brains to enable us to act according to our nature. We don’t have to repress things, because we now can figure out ways to release them without hurting others.
I see, with cannibalism then, within the animal kingdom it simply is an example of an animal killing members of its own species.
How would sociopaths who wish to hurt others act according to their nature? Doesn’t this only work if you already have a benign nature?
Here’s the thing. If hurting others was in accordance with human nature, then we wouldn’t call them “sociopaths” we would call them “normal.”
Even if you want to scratch that point, I think there are tons of ways to release that desire to harm in ways that won’t actually harm. Right now it is not OK to do that, and then that pent up energy has to be released somehow (usually in harming someone, since it wasn’t released in a different way).
My point is that it is much less natural to hold back and let things build up psychologically when if it were socially acceptable we could work together to figure out ways let those things out. Right now it is taboo to talk about sociopathic behavior as natural. I think there would be much less harming each other if this taboo were broken.
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