Comments on: An Exercise in Credibility

By: Alan

Alan — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:08:01 +0000

“Alan — if you think it’s natural justice then shouldn’t you support the government issuing court orders beating people up for saying bigoted things?”

That’s not entirely without merit.

By: michael

michael — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:07:27 +0000

Alan — if you think it’s natural justice then shouldn’t you support the government issuing court orders beating people up for saying bigoted things?

Takis — there’s a popular association between homophobia and repressed homosexuality. While it must statistically be true in some cases, we don’t have much reason to believe it’s the reason behind most homophobes (I think the association’s a bit of a case of pop psychology).

Personally, I explain his behaviour with a [paraphrased] quote from the Simpsons.

Homer: Why is that elephant headbutting that elephant’s side?
Gameskeeper: Well, some elephants have had a very troubled life and have been mistreated and they lash out at others. Then again, some are just jerks…Stop that Mr Simpson! [Zooms out to Homer headbutting the side of the gameskeeper]

By: Alan

Alan — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:38:09 +0000

If someone is the sort of person that deserves a kicking, does it matter why he got said kicking? Is there not a kind of natural justice in that he seems to get away with acting like a bigot, but gets his arse whipped for something else?

Or is it perhaps that him getting a kicking is not justice under any circumstances?

Just food for thought…

By: Takis Konstantopoulos

Takis Konstantopoulos — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:22:40 +0000

I don’t derive satisfaction by seeing someone being beaten up (if he was, that is…) for reasons unrelated to his opinions. If the police did that (*if*) that’s bad. Did they actually know he was this religious fundamentalist bigot? Probably not.

Now if he’s looking for sympathy with this video, if he’s making that up, he doesn’t have my support. I watched the video of him preaching against homosexuals here and all I can say is that he is pathetic. One rational explanation for his behaviour is that he himself wishes to have sex with a man but feels guilty about it. So he tries to convince everybody else it’s wrong. He must be, himself, a “sodomite”–to use his own words.

By: Alan

Alan — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:59:12 +0000

Yes. Yes it would.

By: michael

michael — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:52:56 +0000

Now, I can get into as much [justified] schadenfreude as the next person. However there’s no hilarity or satisfaction here for me — not in the way there would have been if say he worked himself into a hateful frenzy preaching death from the pulpit and fell off the podium sustaining injuries. That I think would be actually hilarious!

By: Alan

Alan — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:54:26 +0000

You know what, after your report on the sort of things he said, I don’t care if his testimony is accurate or not. I think it’s hilarious to imagine him being tased multiple times while his head is ground into the road. He deserves nothing less.